Country: Nicaragua
Wrappers: Ecuadorian Sumatran / Nicaraguan Habano
Binder: Nicaraguan
Filler: Nicaraguan
Size: Robusto 5.0″ x 50 Ring
Ambos Mundos, which means both worlds is the newest line of cigars from Pete Johnson and Tatuaje. Made, like all of Pete’s cigars, by Pepin Garcia this line of cigars is an economy cigar whose release is aptly timed given current economic conditions. Pete had this to say about it:
“My original idea for the Tatuaje brand was for it to be not as expensive as it turned out to be,” said Johnson, “but having it made in Miami kind of set that expensive precedent, so I made this cigar partly due to the economy and partly because this is where I originally wanted the cigar to be priced.”
I find that to be interesting. I am not sure how a cigar the quality of the original Tatuaje could ever be a cheap economy cigar regardless of where it was made so this doesn’t make much sense to me. It implies to me that if the Tatuajes were made in Nicaragua they would be $5.00 cigar. Boy I wish. I am sure that isn’t exactly what he meant but anyway… (edit: The more I read that quote from Pete the more I am convinced I just misread and misunderstood it. He obviously wasn’t saying he originally intended the Tatuajes to be $5, but rather was pointing out that is where he wanted the Ambos Mundos to be. He was just saying that he wanted the Tatuajes to be cheaper than they are, but the fact they are made in Miami precluded that. So now I get what he was saying and my original comments look kind of stupid to me now…)

The Ambos Mundos are long filler cigars that use tobacco from the same farms as the Tatuajes but instead of the Grade A tobacco used for the Tatuajes, these use grade B and C tobacco. It is tobacco that might have cosmetic differences or might need additional fermentation. That is the how and why the price points are where they are. They are available in two sizes and two wrapper types. All of them use Nicaraguan filler and binders, but one version uses a Nicaraguan Habano wrapper and the other an Ecuadorian grown Sumatran wrapper, hence the “both worlds”. The sizes you have to choose from are a bit boring in my opinion. They are the cliche 5×50 Robusto and 6×50 Toro. The Toro is $5 and the Robusto comes in a quarter cheaper. The Ambos Mundos were released this past February (2009). They suggest that you age these cigars a bit to allow the tobacco to finish fermentation due to the use of the lower quality tobacco. That might explain some things, but really, who wants to age an economy cigar?
I smoked the Habano wrapped version with the creme colored band first. Both of the samples I tried were Robustos. The Habano is a Nicaraguan Puro. I have to say, I found this cigar to be nearly unsmokable. It was sour and bitter and very unpleasant. I did my best to try and smoke the whole thing but a little more than halfway through I had to give up on it. This is the first cigar I have tried that is made by Pepin Garcia that I thought was a bad cigar. I find it hard to believe that anything about this smoke is at all related to the Tatuajes I love so much. Maybe it really does need to be aged some but I am not sure how much help that would be to this cigar. To truly age it in any meaningful way means you need to set them down for at least a year, closer to two years probably. Anything less isn’t aging, it is merely acclimation to your humidor. Plus, like I said, who wants to age a $5 economy smoke. The humidor real estate is too valuable and better used aging a box of quality top shelf cigars. As it is today, I have to give this cigar an F.
Next up is the Sumatran which sports the dark red band. Wow what a difference a wrapper can make on a cigar. This was a much better experience. Still not what I would call a good smoke, at least this one was enjoyable enough to smoke the entire cigar. I could see the potential for this one to become a fairly decent smoke if it were allowed to age. It had a spicy bite with an earthy core complimented by notes of cedar and flashes of coffee. There were still occasional hits of sour flavors but it was not nearly as harsh and bitter as the Habano. Because of the potential I can see for this cigar to get at least a little better I can rate this version of the Ambos Mundos as a C.
I wish they didn’t associate this brand so closely with the Tatuaje brand. These are not Tatuajes, and they don’t taste like even a distant cousin to the Tatuaje brand. It hurts me to say it because I am such a huge fan of everything else Pete and Pepin have done, but these cigars just don’t live up the standards they have set with their other lines. Truth is, I find the mixed filler Tatuaje P Series to be a far superior cigar and they cost about the same amount, cheaper in some cases as they are available in a better choice of sizes. I think the concept for these cigars was a nice idea, but I also think it is really hard to make a good cigar at this price point. Fact is, nobody I have come across does a better job at a $5 cigar than Oliva. That is probably because they have a huge advantage given the large quantity of tobacco they have at their disposal (and yes I mean the Oliva Cigar Family and am not referring to the other Oliva tobacco famliy).
Rating – F (for the Habano)
Rating – C (for the Sumatran)






May 29, 2009 at 12:01 am |
I think what Pete is saying is that Its more expensive (labor wise) to have cigars rolled in Miami than it is in Nicaragua. I think Pete originally wanted his Tats not to be so expensive but having them rolled in Miami like he did and the additional labor cost is why his line up is more expensive than he would like.
May 29, 2009 at 8:08 am |
Well stated Jerry. Thanks. That is actually how I took his statement to mean, but was unable to find the words to explain it. I think you summed it up well here. Thanks again.
May 29, 2009 at 7:28 am |
Matt,
I’m really surprised by your experience. I have smoked 5 or 6 of each wrapper and size and liked them all and found them to be very close to a Tatuaje.
I hope you just got a bad batch but a good, honest review!
Long Ashes!
May 29, 2009 at 8:01 am |
I smoked two of each and had the same experience both times. Everyone’s palate is different. These cigars just don’t suit me I guess. I have heard others say they enjoy them as well. I will probably give them one more shot at some point just because they are made by my favorite cigar maker.
May 29, 2009 at 8:06 am |
A quick note in the interest of honesty and full disclosure. I made a change to this review and some of you who had read it before the change may notice it. Somehow I got my wires crossed while typing the review. I originally referred to the light banded cigar as Sumatran and the dark red banded cigar as Habano and that is obviously backwards. What I wrote was accurate according to the band I was referring to I used the wrong wrapper name. It is fixed now and accurately reflects my thoughts on the cigars.
June 6, 2009 at 3:20 pm |
Matt you are not alone in your assessment of these new cigars by Pete. Neither are close to Tatuajes for me either. The flavor profiles just don’t match the cigars that carry the Tatuaje name. I also would agree the Series P is much more comparable to Pete’s other cigars than either of the Ambos Mundos. I can’t imagine that these cigars are simply lesser grade tobacco leaves than the ones that go into the standard
Tatuaje lines.
June 9, 2009 at 9:13 pm |
Matt,
I agree with this review 100%. Not good.
I bought a box of the habano and do not think they taste like a Tatuaje at all.
I am curious as to which $5 Oliva that you like.
I read all of your reviews (just cannot afford all of the cigars!)….
Thanks.
June 9, 2009 at 11:44 pm |
I like the Oliva Serie G, and the El Cobre which is made by Oliva. Some of the Flor de Oliva cigars are decent as well. All of them can be had for around $5. Heck, even the Oliva Serie V can be had for under $6 in a couple sizes and that is a really good smoke.
June 13, 2009 at 12:25 pm |
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June 24, 2009 at 9:48 am |
Oliva Serie V belicosos & double robustos are 5.30 per stick by the box, 5.90 for the single at Famous Smoke Shop; Every size of the Serie G is $4 per stick by the box or 5-pack. Probably even cheaper elsewhere online. Those are phenomenal cigars – the Serie V I choose over plenty of $10 sticks. I’m just sayin’; $5 is far too much to pay for even an okay cigar, let alone a marginal or disappointing one. Life’s too short, and much as I like PJ’s Tatuajes, I can’t spend money on a brand affiliation.
July 21, 2009 at 12:59 pm |
smoked the white one yesterday…horrible…if it didn’t have the band on it I owuld have guessed it to be a Holts bundle or similar creature…but thanks for letting me try it.